The All-Star Blog by Neal Sangani

Saturday, October 13, 2007

Skeptics Will Not Stop Crocs

Pop quiz. In its most recent quarter, a company grows revenue 162% and earnings 205%. Domestic revenues are up 99%, and international revenues are up about 400%. It trades at a 4x forward revenue multiple, and a 27x forward earnings multiple. Its EBIT margin is in excess of 30%. Guess how IAG votes?

Normally, you would have to do some thinking to answer the question. Sit down, actually determine what type of growth rates and margins this company will earn. Determine how fast the size of its market and overall market share will grow. Not an easy task when the growth rates are so high, so you would have to look at relevent metrics of performance, in the case of a retailer: door growth, revenue growth, gross margin expansion, operating margin expansion, market penetration. You would have to put the metrics in perspective given the size of the company, the size of the market, its business strategy, and its competition. How does this company sustain a competitive advantage? Now you have to look at its revenue breakdown: what percentage is coming from what products, what markets, etc. Compare all of this against comparable companies. Hint: Comparable companies doesn't necessarily mean companies that sell the same product.

Before you start crunching numbers, or doing months of industry research as I have, remember that we are in IAG. All of this is unnecessary when you have a growth company. What exactly is a growth company you ask? This is a company where there is a certain level of uncertainty in the future. This is a company with an impressive, but short operating history, which creates senstivity to near-term earnings or projections. And of course, given the strength of its business, this is usually a company at the fearful, dreadful, absolutely and utterly terrifying level known to most as the "52-week high."

Now guess how IAG votes. Pass by an overwhelming majority that shocked even me. 6 vote play. And nearly 100 students on the other side. Though it is tempting for me after losing the battle on Crocs (CROX) to berate the decision of the members, IAG is mostly a young club still learning the ins and outs of the market. I have always been impressed by how quickly the members have been able to analyze the typical "value plays" in the market. It usually doesn't take members long to see the rationale in investing in a company with a strong and long operating history, healthy margins, and low multiples (especially when the multiples are relevant to cash flow). IAG does very well in this arena and I believe it is because of former great PMs teaching the philosophy of value investing.

However, when it comes to growth, IAG usually screws up big. Whether they were ultimately voted pass or play, great companies like Google (GOOG), Wynn Resorts (WYNN), Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG), Blue Nile (NILE), and now Crocs have had a very difficult time making it into the IAG portfolio, even while one is supposed to resemble a "growth" portfolio.

Why? I asked several IAG alum the same question and we agreed the problem is that IAG members are not conditioned to analyzing these types of companies. They see a stock go up 500% or trading at 50x earnings and they simply wonder, how can this company keep possibly going up. Even if they take the next step and look at the fundamentals of the company, they see triple-digit growth rates, and cannot see how that business can keep growthing at a fast clip.

Then, in come the DCF enthusiasts, whom I have been criticizing for almost a year now for the arrogance and lack of reasoning employed in their projections. The Crocs "DCF" dropped revenue growth from 135% for 2007 to 25% for 2008. Given the numbers stated above, anyone would agree that this is absurd. How do we compensate for the lack of intuition in the model? Let's just plot 25% revenue growth for the next five years so we don't have to analyze the company's expansion strategy. Let's keep EBIT margins constant so we don't have to do any research on how they may improve or decline. Let's pay absolutely no attention to near-term analyst projections.

The DCFs are pretty terrible when it comes to companies like Crocs, but sometimes the relatives don't get any better. Last year, a presentation on Palm (PALM) showed a bar graph with forward earnings multiples on Palm and its competitors. "Research in Motion (RIMM) has a 67x multiple while Palm's is only 14x! Buy buy buy Palm! Sell sell sell RIMM!" The reasoning behind my oppenent's CROX relative wasn't much better. It compared Crocs to companies like NIKE (NKE), Sketchers (SKX), Heely's (HLYS) and the average of the footwear industry. Guess who's multiples are going to be the highest? Sketchers is the only one I would call a comparable, but even that is a stretch given its slow growth expecations. But who cares? If they make shoes then we're close in enough.

After spending so much time on errant DCFs, the quality of understanding of the company and industry usually suffers. This was very evident to me last night having experience looking at consumer stocks. Insider selling? Book value? Competition in a market that has only penetrated 2%. The entire reasoning was very flawed. Yes, Sketchers and Nike can make a Crocs-like shoe. But at this stage, that would only expand the growth of the market of those types of shoes rather than slow Crocs's growth. Think of Crocs as Red Bull energy drink. Coke (KO) and Pepsi (PEP) were very eager to enter the energy drink market that Red Bull dominated. But that only made the energy drink market that much bigger. Red Bull lost sizeable market share, but the market grew by such an astonishing rate that it isn't even material anymore.

To be fair for my part of the presentation, in a solid relative, you should have more than one other company to base your judgments. I only included one: Under Armour (UA) because its is without a doubt the most and only comparable to Crocs. There are similar market capitalization, growth estimates, revenue. Moreover, both companies have a similar business strategy in the retail market: trying to expand their business through a hit product. The only difference is that Crocs has much better margins and a much lower earnings multiple. I tried to reconcile those differences, but eventually proposed the market was underestimating Crocs's potential while full appreciating Under Armour. Either way, Crocs is certainly not trading at an unreasonable level. The PEG multiple on CROX is 1.2 trailing (60x/50%), with a forward PEG about .77 (27x/35%).

I believe Crocs is at a very attractive risk/reward level and will continue to perform in measures that a beyond the scope of reasoning currently in IAG. Our presentation on Blue Nile was met with harsh criticism and the stock went up 170% on the fruition of our thesis. Crocs is 5x the size of Blue Nile, but there is still plenty of upside left. It is now my top pick, and I believe I will once again have pitched the best performing stock of the school year. At the same time, I will try to continue to teach members how to invest in growth stocks:

1. Determine on the fundamental growth drivers of the company at hand.
2. Make judgements based on the information (metrics) you have available.
3. Put the market valuation (multiples) in the context of what you learn in 1 & 2.
4. Make a thesis.
5. Reevaluate your thesis as more information becomes available.

Watch Crocs and stay tuned.

Neal Sangani

Disclosures: I own calls on CROX. My comments are for educational purposes only and are solely my opinions.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

*there goes the comments cherry*

While comments aren't the right venue for this, I would argue that many of your arguments for Crocs apply to VMWare, yet you're short there (ignoring the EMC/VMW valuation disconnect).

Josh

P.S. Put yo' damn portfolio in the tracker, kthxbye.

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Investment Analysis Group said...

Point taken. But the valuation disconnect is the entire reason we are short there. I have not done that much research on VMW, but I do know that virtualization has the potential to become a very large industry. The reason we are short is that any rational investor that has done his research and would invest in VMW at this level would do it by purchasing EMC. The fact that this hasn't happened shows irrationality on the part of all those who are purchasing VMW for investment purposes. Perhaps you should study my first post a little more closely to see just how my arguments are not applicable.

Neal Sangani

Anonymous said...

Crocs obviously has the potential you described in your presentation. It is very likely that they will deliver on or above estimates but it is also very likely that they may deliver below earning's estimates, in which case it would be quite catastrophic. That being said, Crocs seems like an awesome company, but the level of risk seems too high especially since you've made some good money off of it already. I think people just felt you could invest in elsewhere with lower risk.

Jessie

*Note: I did vote for a play

Investment Analysis Group said...

Good comment, but you must understand that I only made 7% off of the stock. When investing in a company like Crocs, I understand when you say it carries a lot of risk. However, the market has largely discounted this into the stock price (a 27x multiple for a company that will continue to grow earnings 30-40%. The returns I am looking for are not mere 7% gains. I believe Crocs can easily trade at a 35x multiple given an expected earnings growth rate of 30-40%, and it will earn $2.50 next year. That leads me to my price target of $87.50.

Near-term volatility is nothing to fear in this game. Blue Nile is down from $100 to $84 in a week because of an analyst downgrade. Yes, it is risky. Do I care? I presented it at $38. The problem with your suggestion is that it you should focus on the long-term fundamentals of the company to make these types of decisions, not how you think the market will react to the next earnings report. Use the information you have available then reevaluate your thesis as more information comes. If the gross margins come in weak, you may even take a 15% hit and it may change your entire thesis. However, with Crocs, there is no EVIDENCE to support those conclusions, so why fear the next earnings report.

Neal Sangani

Unknown said...

So, "IAG got it wrong" is what you're saying? You're starting to sound a little too much like a certain former PM...

Anonymous said...

well, mike, if he IS saying that, he might be proven wrong today:

CROCS, INC. (NasdaqGS:CROX)
After Hours: 57.30 Down 17.45 (23.34%) on 10/31/07

When beating your Q3 estimates and lifting your guidance just doesn't quite cut it...

-josh

Anonymous said...

Neal you are an excellent contrarian indicator .... I cant wait to take your PM role next year...

Anonymous said...

So much for the skeptics. I think you should buy it now =)

Anonymous said...

Trading/investing is about making money, not being married to a stock. Obviously, your "hypothesis" on CROX did not pan out. You gambled on earnings and lost. Accept the loss and move on. There are plenty of opportunities out there. While you're waiting for CROX to recover (probably 3-6 months minimum) and continue to tout it as now a "buying opportunity", everyone around you will be banking gains in stronger stocks with more momentum. -Nick

Investment Analysis Group said...

You are obviously confusing long-term investing with a "gamble" on earnings. My hypothesis was on the long-term growth story, not what type of momentum would be generated from an earnings release. Yes, I agree with your sentiments that it would take three to six months or more for Crocs to recover, but I could care less. You make the big bucks when you double-down in momentum-related sell offs like this and stick around for the long-term. Again, (if I mention it enough it may sink in) focus on the fundamentals and long-term metrics, not the momentum.

Neal

Anonymous said...

You are "obviously" using long-term investing as an excuse to stay in a trade that bombed last week. I call it gambling when probability is not on your side. The market has been weak all month and all the retailers have announced disappointing earnings. Even the fundamentals of a stock cannot fight the "tape". Look, my intention is not to bash your picks or trading style. Much of your reasons for staying in CROX are the same reasons that helped me ride the CROX momentum from 45 to 65. However, I would have bought the NOV 70 calls for risk management. This would have limited your downside in an event such as last week. If you did, great! If not, I suggest trying this approach as it would not threaten your "long-term investing" philosophy. A little prudent risk management would save you a lot of money. As for the fundamentals, most momentum stocks have great fundamentals...hence the momentum. Hold onto CROX if you want but you will be paying a high opportunity cost if the stock does not recover. Myself, I will be banking coin in other momentum stocks and have no problems re-entering CROX when momentum returns. Good luck.